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PostSubject: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:14 pm

THAT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT PEOPLE IN WHAT NATION WITH WHAT GOVERNMENT.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:57 am

Nyet.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:57 pm

If all people had the right to insult their government, then America would no longer be the place everyone wants to live. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:45 am

EVERYBODY WANTS TO LIVE IN AMERICA????? IT SEEMS THAT SOME ARE FINE WHERE THEY ARE.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:04 pm

When someone says "everyone" it is a good guess that they are speaking in relative terms.
Of course, terrorists and other anti-Americans would not want to live here. However, the Chinese would love to live here, their government is too oppressive, and the Mexicans obviously want to live here. America is still the land where anyone can become anything. We are the land of hope, and the land of freedom.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:47 pm

WELL THAT IS TRUE THERE COMRADE.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:27 pm

Yes its true.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:19 pm

Oh, and I left one out. The Canadians want to come here because they do not have to put up with the stupid nationalized healthcare. A lot of them come across the border to see American doctors.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:52 pm

Another Fox News reply Rolling Eyes . That isn't true. I bet everyone loves their nationalized healthcare!


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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:26 am

Wow. Strong feelings coming from someone who has done no research, and NEVER EVEN SEEN FOX NEWS! The extent of your knowledge on the subject comes from Czar Obama's jokes.

Here, let me help you out a little. While what I said was exaggerated for the effect, it is still true that some Canadians do not like the system. They do not like being dependent on their government and having to forever to get into the ER.

Look at this: Contrary to your insulting statement, it is not a Fox News saying. They just report what is already happening. Here is a portion from a statement by a Canadian on the subject.
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Are there problems with the Canadian health care system? Yes. I have had great experiences but there are stories of those who have to wait an unacceptable amount of time for treatment. Michael Moore`s `documentary` Sicko is not accurate when it depicts wait times in Canadian emergency rooms. His example of waiting for 20 minutes was laughable. ER wait times can be up to 8-12 hours depending on the hospital. Wait times for surgeries vary from province to province. In my province of Manitoba, wait times for hip and knee replacements is 14 weeks, emergency cardiac by-pass is two days, elective cardiac by-pass surgery is 34 days. This is a great improvement and our provincial government is working to reduce those wait times. Also, this health care system does not come without a cost. Our taxes are high. Between federal and provincial taxes, we pay approximately 30-40% in taxes (depending on the province we live in). My wages are higher than my American counterpart, however, probably not enough to compensate for our higher tax rate. I consider it a fair trade for our universal health care system. We are still able to live within our means, have some luxury items without going into debt, save for our children to go to university, and hopefully retire at a reasonable age.

Some Canadian residents do travel to the US for medical care because of their frustration over waiting times. We have had a case where a Member of Parliament , who was against a two-tiered health system, went to the US for treatment when she developed breast cancer. Political hypocrisy at its finest! However, we also have cases of US citizens coming to Canada by the busload (or the internet) to purchase our prescription drugs because the costs are significantly lower than the US. Cross border drug purchasing is estimated at $ 1 billion annually.


However, this is not all he said. I will give you the link to the site. The guy supports Canada's health care system, but he admits that it has some problems.
http://standupforamerica.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/nationalized-health-care-a-canadians-view/
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:00 pm

Ah, sorry. That was not meant to be insulting. Well, I havn't heard about that. If it is like that than that is pretty bad.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:02 pm

Why did you edit what you wrote? Yes, it was me who wrote that 'Fox News reply' and everyone knows it. So why remove that part of your statement?
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:30 pm

I apologize, E.G.P.. I realize that you were not meaning to be offensive. I am sorry if my response was a little strong.
I only wanted to make sure that EVERYONE understands, again, that I am NOT just parroting Fox News. I do my best to be unbiased, so I do not get my ideas from a single news source.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:31 pm

Okay.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:32 am

I have a question. Is the name of this post not:
SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?





So how on earth did this turn into a debate on healthcare? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:26 am

I have no idea. lol
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:13 am


Well you have to get an information source from somewhere. Unless you plan travelling all day long. Even then you couldn't possibly witness everything. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:03 pm

LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:33 pm

Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:19 am

Well, that's one way to put it. lol
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PostSubject: Re: SHOULD ALL PEOPLE OF ANY NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR GOVERNMENT?   Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:01 pm

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