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PostSubject: the problem in Hondura.   Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:31 pm

does not the former honderan president have a lot of nerve to hold on to power? do you think the u.s will back the (real) honduran president. if the u.s does there will certainly be a lot of wars all over the map Laughing . i think america will go after Hugo Chavez but is it not funny that the new president can not even return to his country? lol. read it all right here if you have not read it yet comrades.


TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras – Soldiers ousted the democratically elected president of Honduras on Sunday and Congress named a successor, but the leftist ally of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez denounced what he called an illegal coup and vowed to stay in power.
The first military takeover of a Central American government in 16 years drew widespread condemnation from governments in Latin America and the world — including the U.S. — and Chavez vowed to overthrow the country's apparent new leader.
President Manuel Zelaya was awakened Sunday by gunfire and detained while still in his pajamas, hours before a constitutional referendum many saw as an attempt by him to stay in power beyond the one-term limit. An air force plane flew him into forced exile in Costa Rica as armored military vehicles with machine guns rolled through the streets of the Honduran capital and soldiers seized the national palace.
"I want to return to my country," Zelaya said in Costa Rica. "I am president of Honduras."
Congress voted to accept what it said was Zelaya's letter of resignation, with even Zelaya's former allies turning against him. Congressional leader Roberto Micheletti was sworn in to serve until Jan. 27 when Zelaya's term ends.
Micheletti belongs to Zelaya's Liberal Party, but opposed the president in the referendum.
Zelaya denied resigning and insisted he would serve out his term, even as the Supreme Court backed the military takeover and said it was a defense of democracy.
He said he would attend a scheduled meeting of Central American presidents in Nicaragua on Monday and that Chavez, who also plans to attend, would provide transportation.
Zelaya called on Honduran soldiers to back him, urged citizens to take to the streets in peaceful protests, and asked Honduran police to protect demonstrators.
Micheletti was sworn in at a ceremony inside the Congress building with cheers and chants from fellow legislators of "Honduras! Honduras!"
Outside of Congress, a group of about 150 people opposed to Zelaya's ouster stood well back from police lines and shook their fists, chanting "Out with the bourgeoisie!" and "Traitors!"
Within hours, Micheletti declared a nationwide, 9 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew for two days starting Sunday night. He told a news conference he had appointed a new foreign minister: lawyer and former Ambassador to the U.N. Enrique Ortez Colindres.
Micheletti insisted that he did not arrive at his new post "under the aegis of a coup d'etat."
"I have reached the presidency as the result of an absolutely legal transition process," he said.
He also defended the army, saying "the armed forces have complied with the constitution and the laws."
But he warned against outside interference after Chavez remarked that if Micheletti was appointed president, "We will overthrow him."
Micheletti acknowledged that he had not spoken to any Latin American heads of state, but said, "I'm sure that 80 to 90 percent of the Honduran population is happy with what happened today."
He also announced that Zelaya would be welcome to return to Honduras as a private citizen on one condition: "Without the support of Mr. Hugo Chavez, we would be happy to take him back with open arms," he said.
Zelaya's overthrow came hours before polls were to open on a constitutional referendum that he was pushing ahead even after the Supreme Court and the attorney general said it was illegal. The constitution bars changes to some of its clauses, such as the ban on a president serving more than one term, they said.
Some businesses in the capital, Tegucigalpa, closed earlier this week amid the rising tension, and many speculated there would be a coup. Those who opposed the referendum warned against voting, fearing violence at the polls.
Countries throughout Latin America and the world condemned Zelaya's expulsion. Chavez said Venezuela "is at battle" and put his military on alert.
In Havana, Cuban Foreign Minister Bruno Rodriguez vowed to work with allies to push for Zelaya's return to power. He said Cuban Ambassador Juan Carlos Hernandez was held briefly in Tegucigalpa after he and other foreign diplomats tried unsuccessfully to prevent soldiers from taking away Honduran Foreign Minister Patricia Rodas.
Chavez said troops in Honduras temporarily detained the Venezuelan and Cuban ambassadors and beat them.
President Barack Obama said he was "deeply concerned" and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Zelaya's arrest should be condemned.
"I call on all political and social actors in Honduras to respect democratic norms, the rule of law and the tenets of the Inter-American Democratic Charter," Obama's statement read.
For those conditions to be met, Zelaya must be returned to power, U.S. officials said.
Two senior Obama administration officials told reporters that U.S. diplomats are working to ensure Zelaya's safety as they press for restoration of constitutional law and his presidency.
One of the officials said that the U.S. has been in touch with Zelaya since he was brought to Costa Rica, and has been trying to communicate with members of the Honduran Congress to insist that the new power structure step down.
The officials said that the Obama administration in recent days had warned Honduran power players, including the armed forces, that the U.S. would not support a coup, but Honduran military leaders stopped taking their calls.
The officials briefed reporters by phone Sunday on condition of anonymity, under ground rules set by the State Department.
The Organization of American States approved a resolution Sunday demanding "the immediate, safe and unconditional return of the constitutional president, Manuel Zelaya."
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned the coup and "urges the reinstatement of the democratically elected representatives of the country," said his spokeswoman, Michele Montas.
The Rio Group, which comprises 23 nations from the hemisphere, issued a statement condemning "the coup d'etat" and calling for Zelaya's "immediate and unconditional restoration to his duties."
Coups were common in Central America for four decades reaching back to the 1950s, but Sunday's ouster was the first military power grab in Latin America since a brief, failed 2002 coup against Chavez. It was the first in Central America since military officials forced President Jorge Serrano of Guatemala to step down in 1993 after he tried to dissolve Congress and suspend the constitution.
"We thought that the long night of military dictatorships in Central America was over," said Costa Rican President Oscar Arias, who sat beside Zelaya at a news conference.
Zelaya told the Venezuela-based Telesur network that he was awoken by gunshots and the shouts of his security guards, who he said resisted troops for at least 20 minutes. Still in his pajamas, he jumped out of bed and ducked behind an air conditioner to avoid the bullets, he said.
He said eight to 10 soldiers in masks escorted him onto an air force plane that took him to Costa Rica.
About 100 supporters congregated in front of locked gates outside the national palace, where they hurled rocks at soldiers and shouted "Traitors! Traitors!" They hung a Honduran flag.
"They kidnapped him like cowards," screamed Melissa Gaitan. Tears streamed down the face of the 21-year-old, who works at the [color:b623=#000]government television station</FONT>. "We have to rally the people to defend our president."
Many union and farm groups supported Zelaya's push for the referendum — which he said was aimed at changing policies that have excluded the nearly three-quarters of Hondurans who live in poverty.
The vote did not take place on the referendum, which asked whether another vote should be held on convoking an assembly to rewrite the constitution.
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Associated Press writers Marianela Jimenez in San Jose, Costa Rica, and Calvin Woodward in Washington, D.C., contributed to this report.
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:59 am

Ha! They not letting him back into his country! That very funny! I think America will support the coup.
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:20 am

That is an illegal coup!


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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:46 pm

i think its time for a new government da?
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:25 pm

Da Very Happy Oh that Hugo Chavez called bush a devil A fiew years ago Evil or Very Mad he might want to stop doing what he is doing or America might stomp the devil out of him Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:46 am

Maybe so. But is a coup any more legal than rewriting the constitution?
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:43 pm

good point but at least when i join the military it looks like there will be many places to tour besides iraq Wink .
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:53 pm

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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:30 am

Oh that's really important! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:06 pm

why certainly comrade! the u.s needs to flex its wings a little.
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:06 am

Flex its "wings"? Do you not mean muscles?

By the way, Comrade Revolutia, just because it is an illegal coup does not technically make it a bad thing.
For instance: the Boston Tea Party was illegal; the Revolutionary war was illegal; Count Von Stauffenburg's assassination attempt and military coup against Hitler was illegal.
If I thought long enough I am sure that I could come up with more. After all, pretty much all rebellions against oppressive leaders are "illegal".
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:29 am

Good point, Comrade ConfederatePatriot, but in Honduras I think Zelaya has more supporters than not. If they want to oust their president the majority of Honduras should at least be for it.
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:18 pm

Again, how many Germans were in on the July 20th plot? How many New Englanders were Patriots and how many were Tories. How many Russians were supportive of the Czar and how many hated him?
Sometimes, it is only a few that recognize the need for change. The majority is NOT always right.

However, in this case, it does not sound like either leader is right. And in this case, I do believe that the rebellion is more like Lenin's and not like Jefferson Davis or George Washington's.
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:56 am

another chance for the u.s to have a war! Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:36 pm

Ha! This coming from the guy who believes that President Bush was insane and stupid for invading Iraq.
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PostSubject: Re: the problem in Hondura.   Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:43 pm

he is comrade, but i never said i did not enjoy it! well not his economic stupidity but the wars might as well be enjoyed who wants to go into the military and there be no war?
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